Balancing Witchcraft and the Mundane: Molly's Journey from Accounting to Tarot

Have you ever wondered how one can balance the mystical with the mundane? Molly from SoulPod joins us to share her unique journey, blending her life as a practicing witch with her day job as an accounting professional. We hear about her passion for tarot and life coaching through her platform, The High Priestess Coaching. Molly gives insight into honoring nature, the seasons, and oneself through her magical practices, even while coming from a Christian family background. Her story offers a fresh perspective on embracing one's identity and the subtle magic found in everyday life.

What drives someone to dive deep into witchcraft and maintain self-compassion amid the challenges? Molly opens up about her battles with imposter syndrome and the constant yearning to do more. She shares strategies on managing these feelings and talks about the gratifying moments when her practices yield positive results for herself and others. Not to mention, we explore her favorite tools, including the Golden Thread and plasticized Rider-Waite-Smith tarot decks, which add a layer of connection and comfort to her craft.

Pets often hold a special place in our hearts, and Molly’s story about her cat Nigel highlights this deep emotional bond. We discuss the significance of embracing mistakes in one's practice and offer advice to new practitioners to seek knowledge bravely. With upcoming potential guests like author Bakara Wintner and a friend who leads full moon rituals, we promise more intriguing content.

Listen to Soul Pod, the podcast here!

Chapters

• 0:04 Exploring Witchcraft and Self-Expression
• 16:41 Embracing Love, Struggles, and Darkness
• 35:56 Embracing Connections and Personal Stories
• 52:00 Discover Your Average Witch Podcast

Transcript

Kimothy: 0:04

Welcome back to your Average Witch, where every Tuesday, we talk about witch life, witch stories and sometimes a little witchcraft. Your Average Witch is brought to you by Crepuscular Conjuration. If you want to join our community and be part of the hive, join us at facebookcom. Slash groups slash hivehouse. This week I'm talking to Molly of SoulPod, the podcast we talked about. Love is motivation, darkness in practice and how it's okay to make mistakes. Now let's get to the stories. Molly, hello, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much for being here. Can you please let everybody know who you are and what you do and where they can find you?

Molly: 0:52

Yes, my name is Molly. I am a witch. I am an accounting professional. I am a Virgo. I am a Virgo. I am a hard rock enthusiast.

Kimothy: 1:09

You're a Virgo accountant.

Molly: 1:13

Oh yeah, that's funny. Not technically an accountant, not gotten any certification, but I have been working in accounting roles for the last four years, so I say it counts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm also a tarot reader and a very soon-to-be podcaster. Yay, yay, super stoked. Yeah, um, let's see. And then, with regards to where I can be found, I can be found, um, my podcast can be found at soul pod, the podcast on instagram. Um, my tarot hold on, let me pull it up because I just have neglected it too badly. Here we go my tarot account have neglected, but I am hoping to get things rolling soon back up and running. And that website, if I can. I said I was ready and then I clearly was not. Hold on, I'm so sorry you're a liar.

Kimothy: 2:48

This interview is over. Oh my god you're fired.

Molly: 2:54

I knew it. Oh my god website, here we go. It is the high priestess coachingcom. Um, because, unfortunately, tarot was taken up, but, uh, I hope to be able to offer life coaching as well in the future. Um, but for the time being, I do offer tarot readings and would love to hear from people. If anybody's ever interested. Um, yeah, I can be reached there too, so nice yeah, and would love to hear from people. If anybody's ever interested. Yeah, I can be reached there too, nice yeah. And then, one of the things that I really appreciated on this in the questions you sent me was mentioning whose land I'm on, and because that is like super, super important, um, I am on uh, nipmuc land in, uh, massachusetts, central, southern, central Massachusetts.

Kimothy: 3:53

So, yeah, I love getting to learn all these indigenous names Me too, I think they're cool.

Molly: 4:02

I love them. There's a lot of them here in Massachusetts. It's one of the things that I would like to learn more about is the names and the histories of the local indigenous populations.

Kimothy: 4:17

So yeah, so tell me what it means to you when you call yourself a witch.

Molly: 4:24

so tell me what it means to you when you call yourself a witch? There's probably way too many layers and way too many ways that I could go that would all still feel accurate. Um, in, in answering that I, uh, one of the biggest things I think for me is uh to be a witch. When I, when I call myself a witch, what it means to me is um honoring nature and honoring the seasons, um honoring myself. Uh, which has been a journey for sure to learn to do and, you know, learning ways that I can better express my love for the world around me and the people around me.

Molly: 5:27

Because that's honestly what I believe that witchcraft and magic boils down to is love. Nobody said that before, really. Yeah, wow, okay. Well, I'm glad I got to give something a little original over here, hooray.

Kimothy: 5:39

Yeah, yeah. Do you have any family history with any sort of magical practices, any things that your grandparents or any like aunts did?

Molly: 5:53

that seemed sort of maybe a little bit odd then, but now you're like, oh, that was witchcraft honestly, um, nothing that was really direct or anything that was obvious, which I know it's very infrequently a super obvious thing. In reality, both sides of my family are pretty intensely Christian and so witchcraft was a heavily avoided subject yeah, with my family. Nobody ever talked about witchcraft was like a heavily avoided subject yeah, with my family, nobody ever talked about witchcraft. Nobody ever talked about witchcraft Well, unless it was, you know, to condemn it in the context of, like the scriptures, yeah, and.

Molly: 6:41

But when I think about, like the broader way in which I view, like, what it means to be a witch, you know, and and the the context of love and expressing love, I can see ways in which I would consider, like you know, my grandmother's, my mother, you know all of them to like they. Certainly there was something extra to the ways that they took care of their family that I personally attribute to just magic and whatever the soul is that needs to gravitate toward. That soul is that needs to gravitate toward that. But on the surface, to their own knowledge, there was no practicing of witchcraft and it's not even something I guess I'll admit right now. It's not even something I've ever gone super public about myself, um, especially to my family, so not that I expect they'll stumble across this episode recording right now.

Kimothy: 7:53

But uh, what do I want to do today?

Molly: 7:56

I know, I'm going to listen to this random podcast about witchcraft witches.

Kimothy: 7:59

It's not even about witchcraft, specifically about witches.

Molly: 8:04

Holy shit, my daughter no yeah, I, I don't expect that they'll run across it and I'm okay, I'm honestly. That's part of the reason that I actually wanted to be able to do this is because I was like realizing how important it is to me to start to um myself and to speak openly and publicly, not only about my own current identity as a witch, but the journey I took to get here, leaving the Mormon church, was traumatic, not only for me but for my family, I'm sure, and I have to say I'm sure because we've never talked about it, because you know why talk about things that are difficult right Avoidance is always the best way yeah, um, no, it was.

Molly: 9:11

it was shut down pretty much immediately. Um talking about it and so you know in, in realizing you know what I would be talking about, um, by interviewing with you, I it felt there was like a lot of happiness that came up, which needed to come up, just because I hate to hurt people. I never, ever, want to do that, but I also am doing, have always been doing myself a disservice by silencing myself.

Kimothy: 9:44

You're not doing anything to them. You are doing something for yourself. Their interpretation of that is up to them.

Molly: 9:51

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, you're right, you're right, and it's so hard to lose sight of that when you're in it. You know, yes, I do know, yeah, yeah, I've literally been having discussions about this exact subject with people in the last 24 hours, so I should know too. But of course, when it comes to my own situations, I think differently.

Kimothy: 10:15

Yeah, you're in it so it's very easy for me. I've already worked through it and stopped giving a shit, yeah.

Molly: 10:23

It's easy for me to say that from the outside. I mean, I feel like I am getting there, at least in terms of just like understanding that I have to prioritize my own needs if I'm going to be happy for the rest of my life. I got the rest of my life to live. Yeah, so, yeah. So there's that no family history with witchcraft, except for it's the devil.

Kimothy: 10:57

So introduce us to your practice. Do you have anything that you do consistently, maybe even daily?

Molly: 11:04

I wish that I could say yes to that. I feel like it's a much more common. It's comforting to hear that more often, that it's a common thing to just be like wishing you did more than you actually do, because I hate to feel like I'm alone in that, like I'm alone in that I honestly I think I attribute most of it to struggling with ADHD and executive functioning issues. You know where it's hard for me to take care of myself in general some days. Therefore, anything extra just completely goes by the wayside. But at the same time, I've been trying to ramp it up a little bit more lately, just in terms of incorporating even tiny little things. Last year, I purchased my condo where I live now, and home ownership has really changed how I approach my practice, just because I can do whatever I want within my own home, which includes painting rooms on doorframes. Yeah, yeah, that's one thing that like, I'm like hey, if I want this reminder and I want to be reminded of it all the time, I can paint it literally on the wall. It's all for me, it doesn't matter Things like that. And, as always, it's a perpetual battle to try to get myself into a regular meditation practice, but I am hoping to improve on that too, but because meditation is how I started out, meditation, mainly for mental health reasons, is how I started out, but you know, I want to incorporate that more.

Molly: 12:58

And then the tarot is super important to me. I use it in spellcraft as well, as I love to do readings I really do. Anybody that ever wants one in my life they know that they can reach out and I'm so stoked to just jump on it. I get really enthusiastic about it. So, um, yeah, I, uh, yeah, I incorporate a lot of that and, like I mentioned runes before, I am trying to learn them now still, um, and would like to incorporate more of that too. Um, going forward, but, yeah, it's, it's very. I think that a lot of my practice happens internally more than external, which also, I think, is probably something that a lot of people feel is the case for them, them. But yeah, I love the external stuff, the tools, the pretty crystals. I love all of that.

Kimothy: 14:16

But the things that really matter to me are happening inside.

Molly: 14:22

How would you say witchcraft has changed your life. It's helped me to make sense of life, really, um, it has. It's helped me to make sense of my own life, um, and you know, the world around me, the universe, uh, things that I never thought anybody could ever make sense of. I've started to come to understand through the lens of witchcraft and related practices like astrology and the tarot that's like the most succinct way I can put it. I guess I'm starting to understand myself when I didn't think I ever could. Well, that's nice, it's really nice, it's a great feeling.

Molly: 15:20

In particular, I know that you have interviewed Amber Energy Services and I actually, over the last month, I've had a few sessions with her, and those sessions have completely changed the game for me in terms of removing self-doubt and understanding myself on a fundamental level, and understanding that not only am I who I have always, you know, felt, but that I also never need to second guess any of it or explain myself, which is a very bizarre thing to realize. I struggled with, but I really spent a lot of my life feeling somewhat lost and, having had this experience with her, I just everything is changing now in a way that I don't even know if I can explain with words, but it's all really really great, great changes.

Kimothy: 16:41

So yeah, what is the biggest motivator in your practice?

Molly: 16:51

I'm going to go with love again. Love at the core is what pushes me to do anything. Do anything, you know, whether it's helping others out with things that they need, like for spell work, or if it's a tarot reading or anything like, I always operate from a place of like, care and compassion and I continue to be open to helping people because I care and because I love them. And then I'm also learning how to turn that inward now too and operate from a place of self-love and self-respect and patience and compassion. It's like all of it is always deeply entangled with mental health and you know so. It's all interlinked with everything I go through with in therapy and all that stuff. It's always intertwined Um and um at its core, like that's, that's the ultimate motivator and it's the ultimate goal for me. And, uh, I, uh, I guess I'll stick with that answer, no matter how much it sounds like a hippie. Um, but, but it's uh, it's just, it's just true, that's all you know what is your biggest struggle with witchcraft.

Molly: 18:35

Probably the constantly wishing I was doing more and maybe attributing or what's the word I want, sort of making the assumption that something is going to take up more energy and time than I feel like I have and therefore not even, you know, trying to do stuff that I know that I want to do. Yeah, yeah, it's a big problem and I know that like no-transcript, but at the same time I am getting treatment for that and trying to reach some sort of an equilibrium in my general life as well as in my practice.

Kimothy: 19:45

Do you have imposter syndrome and if you do, what do you do about it? Who doesn't have imposter syndrome? And if you do, what do you do about it?

Molly: 19:51

Who doesn't have imposter syndrome?

Kimothy: 19:53

Lots of people have come on and said they don't.

Molly: 19:56

Wow, exactly, I want to know what that feels like.

Molly: 20:05

Oh man, I, yeah, I definitely I deal with it and have dealt with it in like all aspects of my life, through most of my life.

Molly: 20:15

Just sort of feel again, and I think it connects to that feeling that I always had of just not really understanding myself and feeling somewhat lost. I, I've definitely dealt with imposter syndrome a lot and most recently, I think that like just the mindset shift into knowing that I'm living my life for me and that I need to do that if I'm going to be happy, sort of takes the pressure away At least enough to where I can get myself moving, keeps me from heading into the downward spiral effectively. Um, but it's still, you know, still crops up here and there and, uh, maybe always will, but I've I've learned not to attribute any sort of um, uh weight to it. When it does, you know, it's like, oh, I'm feeling this, but it doesn't actually mean anything to it. When it does, it's like, oh, I'm feeling this, but it doesn't actually mean anything, and then I can just start to move on with my day, which is a nice refreshing change for sure.

Kimothy: 21:47

Yeah.

Molly: 21:50

What brings the most joy in your practice. The very first thing I think of is seeing the results that I want to see, especially when it's in something that I've done to help somebody out. Earlier this year I did a spell to support my friend while she was looking for a new apartment and really had one in particular that she really wanted, and I felt pretty good about it but, you know, wanted to be able to support her and when they landed it it was just like, oh my God. Of course they did, but it was a great feeling. It was just. You know, there's a lot of excitement and joy.

Molly: 22:47

You know, obviously there's always excitement and joy when you um, when you've landed the apartment you want. But you know to know that, like hey, um, I helped out with that, you know, and I have a bunch of examples in that same vein. But, like, it's always that moment of like hearing that you got the result you wanted, moment of like hearing that you got the result you wanted, um, that is both joyful and like reaffirming yeah, it's a fun one.

Kimothy: 23:21

Yeah, what is your favorite tool? It doesn't have to be a physical object. It can be like um, a philosophy or a quote, a song, whatever, or it can be your cauldron, whatever. What is your favorite tool?

Molly: 23:36

I think my tarot deck is my favorite tool. It feels like a, like an old friend now which? Deck do you have? I have the golden thread deck. It's put out by a company called Labyrinthos. I love that one. Yeah, isn't it beautiful.

Kimothy: 23:55

Yeah.

Molly: 23:55

It's very pretty. Oh my God, have you ever handled it before?

Kimothy: 24:01

Once I had the app version, but I got to and I used it for a good while and then I went to some gathering at a witch store and they were passing cards around. I was like this, this is this is familiar. This dick is familiar. Why is this familiar?

Molly: 24:20

I don't have this and I realized it was the actual, in real life copy of that yeah, um, I don't know if they're, if it's like still the case, but uh, mine are plastic I do love a plastic deck.

Kimothy: 24:38

I have a writer white smith plasticized deck. It's wonderful.

Molly: 24:41

I think I'd like that a lot better if I had a plastic. It's very shiny oh, is it one of the illuminated ones, or is it not that?

Kimothy: 24:53

Is it just plastic? Do you remember when you Did you get Cracker Jacks when you were a kid? No, I didn't Shoot.

Kimothy: 25:03

Then I don't know how to explain this, because they had Sometimes for the toy. It would be a little cardboard thing and it was like a little cardboard thing and it was like a little image that had like plastic over it with ridges, and if you tilt it a certain way it looks like the image moves. It's like that stuff, that plastic stuff, it's really cool, cool and it's like it's not foiled, but it looks like it is.

Molly: 25:29

that's cool, I'd love to see that it's beautiful. Yeah, are you gonna bring it to anahatas?

Kimothy: 25:35

I don't know, I really mess with tarot that often, although I am learning it. But yeah, there's a lot to learn. I think I would probably just leave it in my bag and just think well, that was 18 ounces, I didn't need to pack oh yeah, you're flying.

Molly: 25:53

huh yeah, uh, yeah, okay, that's true. Yeah, don't don't bring it if you don't absolutely have to, but if you happen to have it with you, I'd love to take a look at it, because that sounds really really cool. Um, but yeah, no, the golden thread tarot deck has got to be my favorite tool, at least. It's certainly the most reached for, for sure, but I love anything. Anything.

Kimothy: 26:28

Any tool is something that I value very highly, so what is something you wish was discussed more in the witch community? Hmm, um.

Molly: 26:48

Hmm, how do I want to phrase this? Let's see, I wish that darkness was talked about more. Um, I understand the value and I see the value in love and light, for sure, but I really have this, um, the value in love and light, for sure, but I really have this intense feeling of like there's just always needs to be such balance and, you know, I wish that at least. I wish it wasn't so taboo to talk about. I wish people didn't. If they practice anything gray or ambivalent, that they may not feel like they are able to talk about it because it's looked down on, and I wish that that wasn't in place. I wish that precedent wasn't in place, like I wish that precedent wasn't in place.

Kimothy: 27:53

I can come on here and talk about it. I don't give a damn.

Molly: 27:58

Well, that's cool. No, I've you know. Part of the reason I even say that is because I've heard people talk about it on your podcast, and so um.

Kimothy: 28:09

I knew Sometimes you got to do baneful work. I mean hello D if you live in the U? S sometimes you got to fuck some shit up oh my God, it's so needed. Um, I mean, I know I'm not saying other countries don't have problems. This is just where I live.

Molly: 28:26

This is just like, very, very pertinent to where we're at yeah, um, yeah and no, it's like it, it. What it does come down to is just balance. You know, um, and like there's not. I, I personally feel like, for myself at least, um, to uh, anything that's not love and light is inauthentic to myself, um, and it's inauthentic to like the experience of living, um, you know so somebody talked to me about it.

Kimothy: 29:10

Send me a message yeah, um life is not a coin.

Molly: 29:20

It's not like the rainbow one.

Kimothy: 29:21

That's just not. It's not just a coin with two sides, it's a freaking like a beach ball. There are many, many sides. Oh yeah, it's not. I hate the black and white conversation, but it's not just those two colors, right there's a freaking spectrum.

Molly: 29:37

yeah, yeah, and like it honestly. I think that's one of the beauty, like, beautiful things about life and about magic is just the enormous diversity of experiences there are to be had. Um, you know cause there's learning can be done from anything, any experience, um and should be, and you know, to avoid something in its entirety, um, just doesn't sit right with me. But again, to each their own and whatever people are comfortable with, I'm not here to say somebody is wrong for staying within their comfort zone. For sure I am a little bit.

Kimothy: 30:28

I think it's good for you to challenge yourself, everyone if you are just staying in your lane or in your groove rather, if you're staying in your groove, maybe pop your head out groove once in a while and see what else there is yeah, yeah, and I I mean honestly I think that's like why I would say like I wish it was talked about more is because I think if it was more, people might not have such a restricted comfort zone, you know.

Kimothy: 30:59

So yeah, just my thoughts. It sounds pretty Christian to me, honestly, the whole. Oh, turn your other cheek, I'm not doing that I mean if.

Molly: 31:15

If I want to stick to personally, like the uh, uh, frick what's the words? Um, he said frick Frick. Why did I say that? I don't know why I said that. Fuck, good for you. If I want to stick to the philosophy of self-love and self-respect, like Part of that is not letting someone hurt you. Yeah, Turning the other cheek does not jive with that, you know?

Kimothy: 31:47

Yeah, turning the other cheek does not jive with that you know you don't always have to punch them in the face back, but you also don't have to take it.

Molly: 31:56

Yeah, yeah, it's boundaries, but yeah, that's my thoughts on that for sure.

Kimothy: 32:11

Think about what three influences affect your practice the most, whether it's people or a pet or a song you heard once. What is each influence and how has it affected your practice?

Molly: 32:32

Thank them for it. Okay, I like. This First person that I like to think is Bakara Wintner, who wrote the book what the fuck is tarot and how Do I Do it? She is such a fucking badass, and that book made the tarot so accessible. Um, you know, and it is honestly the thing that really she has such a big heart and she is so fucking cool, and I want to thank her for writing that book and for answering my Instagram messages.

Kimothy: 33:44

That's important, though to feel heard from somebody you admire.

Molly: 33:48

Yeah, and everybody, if you've been, if you've been interested in reading tarot or learning the tarot, read that book, read it.

Molly: 33:56

It's so great, um, it's worthwhile, um. But yeah, uh, I'm glad that you mentioned songs, because music is huge in my life and, honestly, coming from an intuitive place, the very first song that came to mind is the song that sort of helped me to spur my mental health journey, which in turn spurred my spiritual journey, and that song is Pyramid Song by Radiohead, which I now have the final lines of that song tattooed on my ribs, and it's such a powerful, powerful, powerful song and I want to thank that song, I want to thank Radiohead honestly. But, yeah, it got me through really dark times when I, you know, had the feeling of wishing I was no longer alive and you know, if it weren't for that, I wouldn't have made it through, much less tried to find help, and you know it just shifted everything. So, and a third thing, also glad you mentioned pets. There's a cat that's no longer in my life and I'm surprised that this is the thing that's going to make me cry.

Kimothy: 35:47

They do.

Molly: 35:48

Yeah, but they do. Yeah, but I had a cat named nigel who was like a soulmate, and he also got me through dark times and I miss him every day. He unfortunately got lost. I don't know if he died or if he was rescued off the street somewhere, but he got lost in 2017. And I still can't think about him without crying, so that tells you how important he was. I've done my job, I guess.

Kimothy: 36:42

So did he.

Molly: 36:44

Yeah, I miss him, everybody misses him. Everybody that had the opportunity to meet him absolutely loved him. He was such a little weirdo and in the best way, and so pretty and so clever and very emotionally intelligent and intuitive and I guess in that way he would have been considered a familiar. If I, you know, thought to call him that when I had him, I would have done so. But yeah, I'll thank him too, then. I hope he's doing okay, wherever he is.

Kimothy: 37:40

He is.

Molly: 37:42

Yeah, oops, I'm crying, oops, I'm crying. But yeah, thank you for being patient with me on that.

Kimothy: 38:09

I am not going to cry about my dog. Oh so pets.

Molly: 38:15

That's why I'm not speaking I understand, I get it, I'm getting. I'm trying to get used to crying while recording, because I've already done a lot in the episodes that I've recorded so far for my own show. So, oops, it's fine. It's fine, it's healthy to cry.

Kimothy: 38:36

Yep, let it out. Speaking of advice, what advice do you have for new practitioners have?

Molly: 38:47

for new practitioners Yikes, oh man, I'm going in a circle in my head here. Now For new practitioners, I want to be able to say be cautious with where you get your information, but don't overthink it to the point that you get paralyzed and don't try anything. It's a hard balance to try to find, but it's a scary world out there with, uh, some of the discourse around witchcraft, um, and people getting really, uh, cruel and gatekeepy about you know you don't need to be scared to make mistakes. That's, I think, a really big thing that even I had to try to learn.

Kimothy: 40:15

Yeah, nobody's going to die if you interpret the cards wrong. Yeah, it's okay.

Molly: 40:22

Yeah, it just. You know everybody, and I think this goes for life as well. But in your practice especially, just like, do the best you can and if you figure out you've made a mistake somewhere, you know make note and do it differently next time.

Kimothy: 40:38

Apologize, if you need to, yeah.

Molly: 40:39

Apologize if you need to.

Kimothy: 40:41

That's what it's there for for sure, but then go on. Don't make it your whole life.

Molly: 40:50

Exactly. Don't let it scare you out of trying anything else or continuing on. If it's something that's really calling to you like, the priority should be to pursue it. You know, as a practice, like anything that is calling to you like, don't ignore it just because you're afraid of fucking up. We all fuck up, it's just a fact of life.

Kimothy: 41:24

Who do you think I should invite to be on the show?

Molly: 41:29

Am I allowed to get two answers?

Kimothy: 41:31

No, you can only get half of one now, half of one which half then. No more questions. Yeah, name, whoever you want.

Molly: 41:46

I think it'd be really cool if you interviewed Bakara Wintner, the author of that tarot book. I mean, I don't know necessarily how you'd get ahold of her at this point. Maybe just send her a message on Instagram.

Kimothy: 42:02

Yep, that's what I'll try. You got a response, I will also try that.

Molly: 42:08

Yeah.

Kimothy: 42:09

Or you send her a request.

Molly: 42:12

Maybe I'll try. I'll see if she'll respond to me again. I'll try, I'll see if she'll respond to me again. But, yeah, no, she's got some really really cool and really just not intense is not the right word Like a lot of really major life experiences that she has drawn from, and she talks a lot about it in her, um, her book. But, like, I think that it'd be really cool to hear you know her thoughts on a lot of this stuff.

Molly: 42:52

Um, yeah, so that's the answer Number one. Um, then the answer number two is somebody that I know personally but haven't reached out and asked if it's okay if I mentioned her and 2019 began running full moon rituals at a local shop, and that really kind of saved my ass in 2020, before the pandemic hit, where I was extremely lonely, freshly broken up with, had no friends and needed somewhere to go and people to meet, and she she was there and I you know that's when I met her and she's been running them ever since and she's a wonderful, wonderful person and she's also really fucking cool. So there's my two answers Take it or leave it.

Kimothy: 43:59

So is there anything else you wanted to bring up? Anything? I didn't ask you Anything, you just wanted to talk about Anything you wanted to ask me. Do you have anything going on with your business yet?

Molly: 44:12

Well, we are hopefully fingers crossed releasing our first podcast episodes very soon I want to say this upcoming Monday, but that will depend on me getting editing done in time. Honestly, I'm really excited about getting these episodes released, and so I feel like that's going to be enough of a motivator for me to pull through, genuinely super excited about it. But yeah, that honestly, like there, I'll plug that. Go listen to our podcast. It's Soul soul pod, the podcast um, me and my biological mother, and we talk about, uh, life and magic and mental health and uh, everything uh in between the last two things that I have to ask of you are number one, please recommend something, anything at all.

Kimothy: 45:17

not does it have to ask of you are number one, please recommend something, anything at all. It doesn't have to be magic related, just recommend something. Like the last time you told somebody, hey, you should try blah, blah, blah. What is that? Blah, blah blah?

Molly: 45:28

Everybody should go if you have a Hulu subscription or find a friend who has one, and get on Hulu and watch MASH, what Everybody needs to watch MASH, what Everybody needs to watch MASH Like the 70s one the 70s show.

Kimothy: 45:43

Yes, oh, I've already done that. Okay, well, you're off the hook. That's what I watched growing up.

Molly: 45:53

I thought you were going to say the Bear. No, I mean, I'm sure it's a great show. I have not seen it. You have to watch it, that's my I have a high school friend. There was a very, very, uh small speaking role extra in the bear. Um, yeah, wow, what's up? He's probably not listening to this, but I'm proud of that is freaking cool anyway, it's really cool to watch your favorite.

Kimothy: 46:18

Who's your favorite masher? Uh, I don't know if that's what they call themselves or anyone else calls them. That's just out of my mouth mash character.

Molly: 46:27

Uh, hawkeye, is that a cop out?

Kimothy: 46:31

no that makes sense isn't that, who's it? It's about really.

Molly: 46:35

Yeah, he's like the main character, basically, um, but he's like my favorite consistently. But I also, I think, uh, bj honeycutt is really hot too. So, um, what's his name? Mike farrell, the actor, I mean, he's like 80 now, but um, like just I don't know. I find him really attractive and so I'm just like, oh, is he my favorite too? I don't know. They're all great. It's a fantastic show, like. That's why I'm recommending it, and it's on Hulu in its entirety, all 11 seasons. Go watch it.

Kimothy: 47:14

Thing number two is please tell me a story.

Molly: 47:18

Story. All right, I got one. So last year I went to my sister's wedding, and running into people at family weddings is like the best way to learn things about yourself that you'd never remembered. Um, so I um a family friend like who was also the mother of a friend of mine from my childhood, cornered me and told me this story, which really I actually deeply loved and made me feel really validated unexpectedly.

Molly: 48:05

But she told me about how, when I was like five years old, at a church picnic together because, of course, and I was off in the distance and her son walked over as if he was like trying to figure out what I was doing because I was standing by this tree and apparently I was just talking to the tree and he just walked up and was like looking at me sideways, just like like what, what? So confused and, uh, after a minute of watching me because I wasn't paying attention to him, I was just talking, having this really really deep, engaging conversation with a tree apparently he just shrugged and walked away and she watched it all happen from a distance and decided to tell me about it. Uh, when I was 31 years old.

Kimothy: 49:10

so that's weird. That's weird in itself it's.

Molly: 49:15

It are quirky, you know, but it was cool because I was like, hey, maybe I've always been a witch, even when I was five and just talking to trees, I don't know. I spent a lot of time in nature as a kid. It was so just where I wanted to be, just where I wanted to be, and that, in and of itself, is the whole reason that I felt the need to actually look into witchcraft. I like nature, I want to worship it. How do I do that? There we are. Started when I was five At a church picnic. But yeah, it was a cute story. It made my heart warm. Good yeah.

Kimothy: 50:05

Well, thank you for the story and for talking to me.

Molly: 50:09

You're so welcome. Thank you for listening to my ramblings.

Kimothy: 50:15

Everybody. Be sure to go down below and click the links, click follow, etc. And I will see you on the internet. Okay, bye, bye, holly, cool please. Oops, there was a loud sound, sorry. Everyone Say when, so I can pick you a card. When Did you join a sorority in college? I did not.

Molly: 50:53

No, they don't have to be from the same universe, right? No Cool, okay, do you ever read? Is it Tamora or Tamara Pierce Pierce? I never have figured out how to pronounce her name, but Tamara Pierce.

Kimothy: 51:12

I say Tamara.

Molly: 51:14

Okay, tamara Pierce.

Kimothy: 51:17

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